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  • J. Jensen ·

    Her ville Kim Nielsen for 27 dage siden belærer Bertel Johansen

    kim Nielsen skriver:
    Bertel Johansen noget besynderligt argumentationstil
    EU smadder både vores demokrati og velfærdsstat - jeg ved godt at du som liberal er kold et vist sted over for det. Asymmetrien mellem pengepolitikken og den økonomiske politik kan forstås i lyset af det følsomme i at overlade yderligere kompetence til EU inden for sidstnævnte, hvilket forklares således af Hinarejos:
    >> The idea of a growing role for the EU in these areas is often met with concern, and the argument that the EU, does not have, at this moment, the necessary democratic legitimacy to decide on matters such as taxation or the size and features of the welfare state.
    So while it may seem necessary for EMU to evoke, the euro areas countries and the institution of the EU find themselves in uncharted, and extremely uncertain, waters <<

    Derfor skrev jeg efterfølgende
    Nielsen citere du fra Alicia Hinarejos bog fra 2015 med titlen
    ” The Euro Area Crisis in Constitutional Perspective”
    For så lyder afsnitte således

    It was discussed earlier that the design EMU followed the monetarist line of argument, according to which, once monetary policy had been centralized, sufficient economic coordination would follow-an assumption that was not borne out by the facts. There are further reasons why economic and fiscal policy was left to the Member states: these are very sensitive areas, and the feeling, to date, was that they were most appropriately discussed and conducted within the national political proces. These areas have to do with allocation of limited resources in our societies, our understanding of the role of the state, and the difinition and limits of solidarity between citizens; decision taken here concern, for example, tax rates, public-sektor salaries, or level of pensions.

    --Understandingly, the idea of a growing role for the EU in these areas is typically met with concern; one of the arguments most often put forward is that the Union does not (yet) have necessary democratic legitimacy to decide on matters such as taxation, pension, or the boundaries of the welfare state. --

    These concern have not only been expressed in the political discussion; in fact, several national constitutional courts believe that there are necessary limits to European integration. In particular, The German Federal Constitutional Courts has been quite vocal in is position that a full economic and fiscal policy would be beyond those limits.
    Because of all this, the EU is limited in wath it can do in this area, and it has to be very careful in negotiating its actions. With this in mind, we will now dicuss the measures adopted to address the crises.

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